Who is better, Seedorf or Charles?
Clarence Seedorf leads with a GOAT score of 84.9 against 84.9 for John Charles — a gap of 0.0 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
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GOAT Rank currently scores Clarence Seedorf and John Charles level at 84.9. Clarence Seedorf leads on Longevity, Honours. John Charles leads on Peak, Dominance, Statistics.
How the GOAT Score is calculated →Seedorf wins: Longevity, Honours
Charles wins: Dominance, Peak, Statistics
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Seedorf leads in 2 of 5 weighted categories.
Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.
Setting the pace at age 21
No verified birth date for Seedorf — shown in the pro-debut view instead.
Every career is cut at the season the athlete turned 21, so a rookie today is measured against exactly what a legend had banked by the same birthday.
| Metric | SeedorfRetired | CharlesRetired |
|---|---|---|
| Champions League titles | 4 | — |
| Netherlands caps | 87 | — |
| Serie A titles | 2 | 3 |
| Club World Cup titles | 1 | — |
| Career club appearances | 878 | — |
| Coppa Italia titles | — | 2 |
| Goals for Juventus | — | 108 |
| Wales caps | — | 38 |
| Serie A top scorer awards | — | 1 |
| Dominance w25% | 82 | 88 |
| Peak w20% | 84 | 92 |
| Longevity w20% | 90 | 80 |
| Honours w20% | 88 | 78 |
| Statistics w15% | 80 | 86 |
Clarence Seedorf leads with a GOAT score of 84.9 against 84.9 for John Charles — a gap of 0.0 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
Charles scores higher on peak, dominance, statistics. Seedorf leads on honours, longevity.
Both are scored on peak, dominance, honours, statistics, longevity within their sport. Seedorf: 84.9, Charles: 84.9.
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