Who is better, David Luiz or Messi?
Lionel Messi leads with a GOAT score of 97.0 against 77.7 for David Luiz Moreira Marinho — a gap of 19.3 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
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David Luiz vs Messi
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MessiWinner
97.0Messi wins: Dominance, Peak, Longevity, Honours, Statistics
David Luiz
77.7David Luiz wins: no category outright
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Verdict
Weighted GOAT score
🇦🇷 Lionel Messi
97.0
Messi leads in 5 of 5 weighted categories.
1. Lionel Messi
2. David Luiz Moreira Marinho
Category breakdown
Season form · Goals per season
Career timeline · Goals per season
Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.
GOAT pace tracker
Through age 21 · Goals per season
1. 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi79 goals
4 seasons by age 21 · 19.8 per season
Setting the pace at age 21
2. 🇧🇷 David Luiz Moreira Marinho1 goals
3 seasons by age 21 · 0.3 per season
David Luiz is -98.7% behind Messi's pace at age 21
Every career is cut at the season the athlete turned 21, so a rookie today is measured against exactly what a legend had banked by the same birthday.
| Metric | David LuizActive | MessiActive · Inter Miami CF |
|---|---|---|
| Career league goals | 37 | — |
| Brazil caps | 57 | — |
| UEFA Champions League titles | 1 | — |
| UEFA Europa League titles | 2 | — |
| Domestic league titles | 4 | — |
| Career goals | — | 879 |
| Career assists | — | 383 |
| Ballon d'Or | — | 8 |
| World Cups | — | 1 |
| Champions League titles | — | 4 |
| League titles | — | 12 |
| Goals per 90 | — | 0.79 |
| Dominance w25% | 72 | 98 |
| Peak w20% | 78 | 99 |
| Longevity w20% | 85 | 92 |
| Honours w20% | 80 | 97 |
| Statistics w15% | 74 | 99 |
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GOAT Rank · the data
Messi97.0
David Luiz77.7
FAQ
Where does David Luiz beat Messi?
David Luiz does not lead any of the five categories; Messi is ahead or level on all of them.
How is the David Luiz vs Messi score calculated?
Both are scored on peak, dominance, honours, statistics, longevity within their sport. David Luiz: 77.7, Messi: 97.0.
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