Who is better, Lloyd or Friedman?
Marty Friedman leads with a GOAT score of 77.7 against 77.6 for Earl Lloyd — a gap of 0.1 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
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GOAT Rank currently ranks Marty Friedman above Earl Lloyd: 77.7 vs 77.6. Marty Friedman leads on Longevity, Dominance, Peak. Earl Lloyd leads on Honours, Statistics.
How the GOAT Score is calculated →Friedman wins: Dominance, Peak, Longevity
Lloyd wins: Honours, Statistics
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Friedman leads in 3 of 5 weighted categories.
Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.
| Ghost race · career day | 30 | 100 | 365 | 1000 | 1825 | 3650 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 🇺🇸 Lloyd | 0 | 0 | 6.1 | 14.1 | 39.8 | 68.3 |
| 🇺🇸 Friedman | 0 | 0 | 55 | 117 | 345 | 709 |
Careers are aligned from debut; the first 5 season periods are measured against the same career window.
| Metric | LloydRetired | FriedmanRetired |
|---|---|---|
| NBA titles | 1 | — |
| Games played | 560 | — |
| Career points per game | 8.4 | — |
| Career rebounds per game | 6.4 | — |
| Seasons played | 9 | — |
| Professional league titles | — | 4 |
| Hall of Fame induction | — | 1,972 |
| Professional seasons | — | 18 |
| Inter-Allied Games golds | — | 1 |
| Years at the top level | — | 18 |
| Dominance w25% | 70 | 74 |
| Peak w20% | 82 | 84 |
| Longevity w20% | 78 | 86 |
| Honours w20% | 82 | 72 |
| Statistics w15% | 78 | 72 |
Marty Friedman leads with a GOAT score of 77.7 against 77.6 for Earl Lloyd — a gap of 0.1 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
Lloyd scores higher on honours, statistics. Friedman leads on peak, dominance, longevity.
Both are scored on peak, dominance, honours, statistics, longevity within their sport. Lloyd: 77.6, Friedman: 77.7.
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