Who is better, f0rest or Kramer?
Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg leads with a GOAT score of 77.3 against 77.3 for Kramer — a gap of 0.0 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
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f0rest vs Kramer
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Quick answer
GOAT Rank currently scores Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg and Kramer level at 77.3. Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg leads on Longevity. Kramer leads on Dominance, Honours, Statistics.
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f0restWinner
77.3f0rest wins: Longevity
Kramer
77.3Kramer wins: Dominance, Honours, Statistics
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Verdict
Weighted GOAT score
🇸🇪 Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg
77.3
f0rest leads in 2 of 5 weighted categories.
1. Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg
2. Kramer
Category breakdown
Season form · Form index per season
Career timeline · Form index per season
Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.
GOAT pace tracker
Career stage · GOAT pace
Through split year 5 · Form index per season1. 🇰🇷 Kramer5 split years played · career day 1,825302 trophies
Setting the pace at this stage
2. 🇸🇪 Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg5 split years played · career day 4,7485.5 trophies
-98.2% vs Kramer at the same stage
| Ghost race · career day | 30 | 100 | 365 | 1000 | 1825 | 3650 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 🇸🇪 f0rest | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.16 |
| 🇰🇷 Kramer | 0 | 0 | 48 | 102 | 302 | 584 |
Careers are aligned from debut; the first 5 split year periods are measured against the same career window.
| Metric | f0restRetired | KramerRetired |
|---|---|---|
| Major titles | 1 | — |
| Top-20 appearances | 8 | — |
| Premier tournament wins | 35 | — |
| 1.6 world titles | 3 | — |
| Years at tier-1 level | 18 | — |
| Career prize money (USD) | 650,000 | — |
| Worlds appearances | — | 2 |
| LPL playoff runs | — | 4 |
| LCK seasons | — | 4 |
| Career seasons | — | 9 |
| Career playoff series | — | 30 |
| Dominance w25% | 70 | 72 |
| Peak w20% | 82 | 82 |
| Longevity w20% | 88 | 82 |
| Honours w20% | 72 | 74 |
| Statistics w15% | 76 | 78 |
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GOAT Rank · the data
f0rest77.3
Kramer77.3
FAQ
Where does Kramer beat f0rest?
Kramer scores higher on dominance, honours, statistics. f0rest leads on longevity.
How is the f0rest vs Kramer score calculated?
Both are scored on peak, dominance, honours, statistics, longevity within their sport. f0rest: 77.3, Kramer: 77.3.
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