Who is better, DeBernardi or Payton?
Forrest DeBernardi leads with a GOAT score of 83.2 against 83.0 for Gary Payton — a gap of 0.2 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
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GOAT Rank currently ranks Forrest DeBernardi above Gary Payton: 83.2 vs 83.0. Forrest DeBernardi leads on Honours, Peak, Dominance. Gary Payton leads on Longevity, Statistics.
How the GOAT Score is calculated →DeBernardi wins: Dominance, Peak, Honours
Payton wins: Longevity, Statistics
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DeBernardi leads in 3 of 5 weighted categories.
Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.
| Ghost race · career day | 30 | 100 | 365 | 1000 | 1825 | 3650 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 🇺🇸 DeBernardi | 0 | 0 | 55 | 118 | 267 | 691 |
| 🇺🇸 Payton | 0 | 0 | 7.2 | 16.6 | 67.2 | 149.2 |
Careers are aligned from debut; the first 5 season periods are measured against the same career window.
| Metric | DeBernardiRetired | PaytonRetired |
|---|---|---|
| AAU All-American selections | 5 | — |
| AAU national titles | 3 | — |
| College All-America honours | 2 | — |
| Seasons at national level | 12 | — |
| Hall of Fame inductions | 1 | — |
| NBA titles | — | 1 |
| Defensive Player of the Year awards | — | 1 |
| All-Star selections | — | 9 |
| All-Defensive first teams | — | 9 |
| Career assists | — | 8,966 |
| Dominance w25% | 82 | 80 |
| Peak w20% | 90 | 86 |
| Longevity w20% | 76 | 86 |
| Honours w20% | 86 | 80 |
| Statistics w15% | 82 | 84 |
Forrest DeBernardi leads with a GOAT score of 83.2 against 83.0 for Gary Payton — a gap of 0.2 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
Payton scores higher on statistics, longevity. DeBernardi leads on peak, dominance, honours.
Both are scored on peak, dominance, honours, statistics, longevity within their sport. DeBernardi: 83.2, Payton: 83.0.
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