Who is better, Carbonneau or Abel?
Guy Carbonneau leads with a GOAT score of 85.4 against 85.4 for Sid Abel — a gap of 0.0 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
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GOAT Rank currently scores Guy Carbonneau and Sid Abel level at 85.4. Guy Carbonneau leads on Longevity. Sid Abel leads on Dominance, Peak, Statistics.
How the GOAT Score is calculated →Carbonneau wins: Longevity
Abel wins: Dominance, Peak, Statistics
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Carbonneau leads in 2 of 5 weighted categories.
Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.
| Ghost race · career day | 30 | 100 | 365 | 1000 | 1825 | 3650 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 🇨🇦 Carbonneau | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 87 | 276 |
| 🇨🇦 Abel | 0 | 0 | 1 | 11 | 113 | 268 |
Careers are aligned from debut; the first 5 season periods are measured against the same career window.
| Metric | CarbonneauRetired | AbelRetired |
|---|---|---|
| Stanley Cups | 3 | 3 |
| Selke Trophies | 3 | — |
| NHL games played | 1,318 | 613 |
| Career points | 663 | 472 |
| Playoff games | 231 | — |
| Hart Trophies | — | 1 |
| All-Star selections | — | 4 |
| Dominance w25% | 80 | 82 |
| Peak w20% | 88 | 90 |
| Longevity w20% | 88 | 82 |
| Honours w20% | 88 | 88 |
| Statistics w15% | 84 | 86 |
Guy Carbonneau leads with a GOAT score of 85.4 against 85.4 for Sid Abel — a gap of 0.0 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
Abel scores higher on peak, dominance, statistics. Carbonneau leads on longevity.
Both are scored on peak, dominance, honours, statistics, longevity within their sport. Carbonneau: 85.4, Abel: 85.4.
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