Who is better, Flohe or Messi?
Lionel Messi leads with a GOAT score of 97.0 against 81.9 for Heinz Flohe — a gap of 15.1 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
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Flohe vs Messi
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MessiWinner
97.0Messi wins: Dominance, Peak, Longevity, Honours, Statistics
Flohe
81.9Flohe wins: no category outright
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Verdict
Weighted GOAT score
🇦🇷 Lionel Messi
97.0
Messi leads in 5 of 5 weighted categories.
1. Lionel Messi
2. Heinz Flohe
Category breakdown
Season form · Goals per season
Career timeline · Goals per season
Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.
GOAT pace tracker
Through age 21 · Goals per season
1. 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi79 goals
4 seasons by age 21 · 19.8 per season
Setting the pace at age 21
2. 🇩🇪 Heinz Flohe9 goals
3 seasons by age 21 · 3 per season
Flohe is -88.6% behind Messi's pace at age 21
Every career is cut at the season the athlete turned 21, so a rookie today is measured against exactly what a legend had banked by the same birthday.
| Metric | FloheRetired | MessiActive · Inter Miami CF |
|---|---|---|
| Career league goals | 81 | — |
| West Germany caps | 39 | — |
| World Cup winner | 1 | — |
| Bundesliga titles | 1 | — |
| DFB-Pokal titles | 3 | — |
| Career goals | — | 879 |
| Career assists | — | 383 |
| Ballon d'Or | — | 8 |
| World Cups | — | 1 |
| Champions League titles | — | 4 |
| League titles | — | 12 |
| Goals per 90 | — | 0.79 |
| Dominance w25% | 82 | 98 |
| Peak w20% | 85 | 99 |
| Longevity w20% | 78 | 92 |
| Honours w20% | 84 | 97 |
| Statistics w15% | 80 | 99 |
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GOAT Rank · the data
Messi97.0
Flohe81.9
FAQ
Where does Flohe beat Messi?
Flohe does not lead any of the five categories; Messi is ahead or level on all of them.
How is the Flohe vs Messi score calculated?
Both are scored on peak, dominance, honours, statistics, longevity within their sport. Flohe: 81.9, Messi: 97.0.
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