Who is better, Barnes or Kahn?
John Barnes leads with a GOAT score of 83.5 against 83.5 for Oliver Kahn — a gap of 0.0 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
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GOAT Rank currently scores John Barnes and Oliver Kahn level at 83.5. John Barnes leads on Dominance, Peak. Oliver Kahn leads on Longevity, Honours, Statistics.
How the GOAT Score is calculated →Barnes wins: Dominance, Peak
Kahn wins: Longevity, Honours, Statistics
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Barnes leads in 2 of 5 weighted categories.
Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.
Setting the pace at age 21
No verified birth date for Kahn — shown in the pro-debut view instead.
Every career is cut at the season the athlete turned 21, so a rookie today is measured against exactly what a legend had banked by the same birthday.
| Metric | BarnesRetired | KahnRetired |
|---|---|---|
| League titles with Liverpool | 2 | — |
| FA Cups | 2 | — |
| England caps | 79 | — |
| PFA Player of the Year | 1 | — |
| Appearances for Liverpool | 407 | — |
| Champions League titles | — | 1 |
| Bundesliga titles | — | 8 |
| World Cup Golden Ball | — | 1 |
| Germany caps | — | 86 |
| IFFHS Goalkeeper of the Year | — | 4 |
| Clean sheets | — | 361 |
| Dominance w25% | 86 | 80 |
| Peak w20% | 90 | 88 |
| Longevity w20% | 80 | 86 |
| Honours w20% | 80 | 82 |
| Statistics w15% | 80 | 82 |
John Barnes leads with a GOAT score of 83.5 against 83.5 for Oliver Kahn — a gap of 0.0 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
Kahn scores higher on honours, statistics, longevity. Barnes leads on peak, dominance.
Both are scored on peak, dominance, honours, statistics, longevity within their sport. Barnes: 83.5, Kahn: 83.5.
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