Who is better, Kareem or II?
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar leads with a GOAT score of 95.2 against 13.8 for Gary Payton II — a gap of 81.4 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
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Kareem vs II
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KareemWinner
95.2Kareem wins: Dominance, Peak, Longevity, Honours, Statistics
II
13.8II wins: no category outright
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Verdict
Weighted GOAT score
🇺🇸 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
95.2
Kareem leads in 5 of 5 weighted categories.
II — Insufficient verified career data to calculate a reliable GOAT Score.
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
2. Gary Payton II
Category breakdown
Season form · Form index per season
Career timeline · Form index per season
Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.
GOAT pace tracker
Career stage · GOAT pace
Through season 5 · Form index per season1. 🏳️ Gary Payton II5 seasons played · career day 1,825306 points per game
Setting the pace at this stage
2. 🇺🇸 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar5 seasons played · career day 1,825152.5 points per game
-50.2% vs II at the same stage
| Ghost race · career day | 30 | 100 | 365 | 1000 | 1825 | 3650 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 🇺🇸 Kareem | 0 | 0 | 28.8 | 60.5 | 152.5 | 262.6 |
| 🏳️ II | 0 | 0 | 20 | 157 | 306 | 1,657 |
Careers are aligned from debut; the first 5 season periods are measured against the same career window.
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GOAT Rank · the data
Kareem95.2
II13.8
FAQ
Where does II beat Kareem?
II does not lead any of the five categories; Kareem is ahead or level on all of them.
How is the Kareem vs II score calculated?
Both are scored on peak, dominance, honours, statistics, longevity within their sport. Kareem: 95.2, II: 13.8.
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