Who is better, Grove or Suttles?
Lefty Grove leads with a GOAT score of 88.4 against 88.4 for Mule Suttles — a gap of 0.0 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
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Grove vs Suttles
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Quick answer
GOAT Rank currently scores Lefty Grove and Mule Suttles level at 88.4. Lefty Grove leads on Honours, Dominance, Peak. Mule Suttles leads on Longevity, Statistics.
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GroveWinner
88.4Grove wins: Dominance, Peak, Honours
Suttles
88.4Suttles wins: Longevity, Statistics
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Verdict
Weighted GOAT score
🇺🇸 Lefty Grove
88.4
Grove leads in 3 of 5 weighted categories.
1. Lefty Grove
2. Mule Suttles
Category breakdown
Season form · Form index per season
Career timeline · Form index per season
Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.
GOAT pace tracker
Career stage · GOAT pace
Through season 5 · Form index per season1. 🇺🇸 Lefty Grove5 seasons played · career day 1,825347 home runs
Setting the pace at this stage
2. 🇺🇸 Mule Suttles5 seasons played · career day 3,6511.8 home runs
-99.5% vs Grove at the same stage
| Ghost race · career day | 30 | 100 | 365 | 1000 | 1825 | 3650 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 🇺🇸 Grove | 0 | 0 | 55 | 117 | 347 | 713 |
| 🇺🇸 Suttles | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.485 |
Careers are aligned from debut; the first 5 season periods are measured against the same career window.
| Metric | GroveRetired | SuttlesRetired |
|---|---|---|
| Career wins | 300 | — |
| ERA titles | 9 | — |
| MVP awards | 1 | — |
| World Series titles | 2 | — |
| Career winning percentage | 0.68 | — |
| Negro League home run titles | — | 3 |
| Career batting average | — | 0.329 |
| East-West All-Star selections | — | 5 |
| Negro World Series titles | — | 2 |
| Seasons played | — | 26 |
| Dominance w25% | 90 | 86 |
| Peak w20% | 96 | 94 |
| Longevity w20% | 78 | 88 |
| Honours w20% | 88 | 82 |
| Statistics w15% | 90 | 94 |
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GOAT Rank · the data
Grove88.4
Suttles88.4
FAQ
Where does Suttles beat Grove?
Suttles scores higher on statistics, longevity. Grove leads on peak, dominance, honours.
How is the Grove vs Suttles score calculated?
Both are scored on peak, dominance, honours, statistics, longevity within their sport. Grove: 88.4, Suttles: 88.4.
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