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Liu Shiwen vs Ogimura

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GOAT verdictgoatrank.world
OgimuraWinner
76.9

Ogimura wins: Dominance, Peak, Honours

Liu Shiwen
75.5

Liu Shiwen wins: Longevity

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Verdict

Weighted GOAT score
🇯🇵 Ichiro Ogimura
76.9

Ogimura leads in 4 of 5 weighted categories. Twice world singles champion and later the sport's reforming president.

1. Ichiro Ogimura
76.9
2. Liu Shiwen
75.5

Category breakdown

Season form · Titles per season

Career timeline · Titles per season

Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.

GOAT pace tracker

Career stage · GOAT pace

Through season 5 · Titles per season
1. 🇨🇳 Liu Shiwen5 seasons played · career day 3,28731 titles
Setting the pace at this stage
2. 🇯🇵 Ichiro Ogimura5 seasons played · career day 2,92123 titles
-25.8% vs Liu Shiwen at the same stage
Ghost race · career day30100365100018253650
🇨🇳 Liu Shiwen0000031
🇯🇵 Ogimura0000827

Careers are aligned at debut, so a rookie's first 5 seasons are measured against the same window in a legend's career — Yamal against Messi at the same age-stage, a tour rookie against Tiger Woods in 1996.

MetricLiu ShiwenRetiredOgimuraRetired
World Cup singles titles5
World Championship singles titles12
Olympic golds1
World team titles55
Months at No. 138
ITTF Tour titles24
World Championship titles (all)12
Asian titles4
Japanese titles6
Hall of Fame inductions1
Dominance w25%7276
Peak w20%8084
Longevity w20%7470
Honours w20%7880
Statistics w15%7474

Fan vote — data vs the people

GOAT Rank · the data
Ogimura76.9
Liu Shiwen75.5
The people
Liu Shiwen
Ogimura

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