Who is better, Groza or II?
Lou Groza leads with a GOAT score of 92.4 against 16.5 for Jon Gaines II — a gap of 75.9 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
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Groza vs II
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GrozaWinner
92.4Groza wins: Dominance, Peak, Longevity, Honours, Statistics
II
16.5II wins: no category outright
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Verdict
Weighted GOAT score
🇺🇸 Lou Groza
92.4
Groza leads in 5 of 5 weighted categories.
II — Insufficient verified career data to calculate a reliable GOAT Score.
1. Lou Groza
2. Jon Gaines II
Category breakdown
Season form · Touchdowns per season
Career timeline · Touchdowns per season
Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.
GOAT pace tracker
Career stage · GOAT pace
Through season 5 · Touchdowns per season1. 🇺🇸 Lou Groza5 seasons played · career day 1,825308 touchdowns
Setting the pace at this stage
2. 🏳️ Jon Gaines II1 season played · career day 3641 touchdowns
-99.7% vs Groza at the same stage
| Ghost race · career day | 30 | 100 | 365 | 1000 | 1825 | 3650 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 🇺🇸 Groza | 0 | 0 | 50 | 106 | 308 | 658 |
| 🏳️ II | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
Careers are aligned from debut; the first 5 season periods are measured against the same career window.
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GOAT Rank · the data
Groza92.4
II16.5
FAQ
Where does II beat Groza?
II does not lead any of the five categories; Groza is ahead or level on all of them.
How is the Groza vs II score calculated?
Both are scored on peak, dominance, honours, statistics, longevity within their sport. Groza: 92.4, II: 16.5.
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