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Friedman vs Lloyd

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FriedmanWinner
77.7

Friedman wins: Dominance, Peak, Longevity

Lloyd
77.6

Lloyd wins: Honours, Statistics

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Verdict

Weighted GOAT score
🇺🇸 Marty Friedman
77.7

Friedman leads in 3 of 5 weighted categories. Half of the Heavenly Twins backcourt and a champion in the early professional leagues.

1. Marty Friedman
77.7
2. Earl Lloyd
77.6

Category breakdown

Season form · Points per game

Career timeline · Points per game

Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.

GOAT pace tracker

Career stage · GOAT pace

Through season 5 · Points per game
1. 🇺🇸 Marty Friedman5 seasons played · career day 1,825345 points per game
Setting the pace at this stage
2. 🇺🇸 Earl Lloyd5 seasons played · career day 1,82539.8 points per game
-88.5% vs Friedman at the same stage
Ghost race · career day30100365100018253650
🇺🇸 Friedman0055117345709
🇺🇸 Lloyd006.114.139.868.3

Careers are aligned at debut, so a rookie's first 5 seasons are measured against the same window in a legend's career — Yamal against Messi at the same age-stage, a tour rookie against Tiger Woods in 1996.

MetricFriedmanRetiredLloydRetired
Professional league titles4
Hall of Fame induction1,972
Professional seasons18
Inter-Allied Games golds1
Years at the top level18
NBA titles1
Games played560
Career points per game8.4
Career rebounds per game6.4
Seasons played9
Dominance w25%7470
Peak w20%8482
Longevity w20%8678
Honours w20%7282
Statistics w15%7278

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GOAT Rank · the data
Friedman77.7
Lloyd77.6
The people
Friedman
Lloyd

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