Who is better, Messi or Lorimer?
Lionel Messi leads with a GOAT score of 97.0 against 82.8 for Peter Lorimer — a gap of 14.2 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
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Messi vs Lorimer
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Quick answer
GOAT Rank currently ranks Lionel Messi above Peter Lorimer: 97.0 vs 82.8. Lionel Messi leads on Honours, Peak, Statistics.
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MessiWinner
97.0Messi wins: Dominance, Peak, Longevity, Honours, Statistics
Lorimer
82.8Lorimer wins: no category outright
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Verdict
Weighted GOAT score
🇦🇷 Lionel Messi
97.0
Messi leads in 5 of 5 weighted categories.
1. Lionel Messi
2. Peter Lorimer
Category breakdown
Season form · Form index per season
Career timeline · Form index per season
Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.
GOAT pace tracker
Through age 21 · Form index per season
1. 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi79 goals
4 seasons by age 21 · 19.8 per season
Setting the pace at age 21
No verified birth date for Lorimer — shown in the pro-debut view instead.
Every career is cut at the season the athlete turned 21, so a rookie today is measured against exactly what a legend had banked by the same birthday.
| Metric | MessiActive · Inter Miami CF | LorimerRetired |
|---|---|---|
| Career goals | 879 | — |
| Career assists | 383 | — |
| Ballon d'Or | 8 | — |
| World Cups | 1 | — |
| Champions League titles | 4 | — |
| League titles | 12 | 2 |
| Goals per 90 | 0.79 | — |
| Goals for Leeds United | — | 238 |
| FA Cups | — | 1 |
| Scotland caps | — | 21 |
| Appearances for Leeds United | — | 703 |
| Dominance w25% | 98 | 84 |
| Peak w20% | 99 | 84 |
| Longevity w20% | 92 | 86 |
| Honours w20% | 97 | 76 |
| Statistics w15% | 99 | 84 |
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GOAT Rank · the data
Messi97.0
Lorimer82.8
FAQ
Where does Lorimer beat Messi?
Lorimer does not lead any of the five categories; Messi is ahead or level on all of them.
How is the Messi vs Lorimer score calculated?
Both are scored on peak, dominance, honours, statistics, longevity within their sport. Messi: 97.0, Lorimer: 82.8.
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