Who is better, Messi or Undav?
Lionel Messi leads with a GOAT score of 97.0 against 17.0 for Deniz Undav — a gap of 80.0 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
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Messi vs Undav
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MessiWinner
97.0Messi wins: Dominance, Peak, Longevity, Honours, Statistics
Undav
17.0Undav wins: no category outright
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Verdict
Weighted GOAT score
🇦🇷 Lionel Messi
97.0
Messi leads in 5 of 5 weighted categories.
Undav — Insufficient verified career data to calculate a reliable GOAT Score.
1. Lionel Messi
2. Deniz Undav
Category breakdown
Season form · Form index per season
Career timeline · Form index per season
Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.
GOAT pace tracker
Through age 21 · Form index per season
1. 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi79 goals
4 seasons by age 21 · 19.8 per season
Setting the pace at age 21
No verified birth date for Undav — shown in the pro-debut view instead.
Every career is cut at the season the athlete turned 21, so a rookie today is measured against exactly what a legend had banked by the same birthday.
| Metric | MessiActive · Inter Miami CF | UndavActive · VfB Stuttgart |
|---|---|---|
| Career goals | 879 | — |
| Career assists | 383 | — |
| Ballon d'Or | 8 | — |
| World Cups | 1 | — |
| Champions League titles | 4 | — |
| League titles | 12 | — |
| Goals per 90 | 0.79 | — |
| League starts | — | 68 |
| League goals | — | 46 |
| League assists | — | 18 |
| Shirt number | — | 26 |
| Dominance w25% | 98 | 15.7 |
| Peak w20% | 99 | 23.7 |
| Longevity w20% | 92 | 13.7 |
| Honours w20% | 97 | 11.7 |
| Statistics w15% | 99 | 21.7 |
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GOAT Rank · the data
Messi97.0
Undav17.0
FAQ
Where does Undav beat Messi?
Undav does not lead any of the five categories; Messi is ahead or level on all of them.
How is the Messi vs Undav score calculated?
Both are scored on peak, dominance, honours, statistics, longevity within their sport. Messi: 97.0, Undav: 17.0.
What do you think?
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