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Baum vs Liu Shiwen

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Liu ShiwenWinner
75.5

Liu Shiwen wins: Dominance, Peak, Honours

Baum
75.4

Baum wins: Longevity, Statistics

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Verdict

Weighted GOAT score
🇨🇳 Liu Shiwen
75.5

Liu Shiwen leads in 3 of 5 weighted categories. Five World Cup singles titles — more than any woman in the event's history.

1. Liu Shiwen
75.5
2. Patrick Baum
75.4

Category breakdown

Season form · Titles per season

Career timeline · Titles per season

Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.

GOAT pace tracker

Career stage · GOAT pace

Through season 5 · Titles per season
1. 🇩🇪 Patrick Baum5 seasons played · career day 1,825256 titles
Setting the pace at this stage
2. 🇨🇳 Liu Shiwen5 seasons played · career day 3,28731 titles
-87.9% vs Baum at the same stage
Ghost race · career day30100365100018253650
🇩🇪 Baum004289256542
🇨🇳 Liu Shiwen0000031

Careers are aligned at debut, so a rookie's first 5 seasons are measured against the same window in a legend's career — Yamal against Messi at the same age-stage, a tour rookie against Tiger Woods in 1996.

MetricBaumRetiredLiu ShiwenRetired
European team titles2
World Championship team medals1
Olympic appearances1
Career world ranking best22
Bundesliga seasons15
World Cup singles titles5
World Championship singles titles1
Olympic golds1
World team titles5
Months at No. 138
ITTF Tour titles24
Dominance w25%6872
Peak w20%7980
Longevity w20%8074
Honours w20%7678
Statistics w15%7674

Fan vote — data vs the people

GOAT Rank · the data
Liu Shiwen75.5
Baum75.4
The people
Baum
Liu Shiwen

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