Who is better, Lloyd or Johnson?
Pop Lloyd leads with a GOAT score of 90.6 against 90.5 for Randy Johnson — a gap of 0.1 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
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GOAT Rank currently ranks Pop Lloyd above Randy Johnson: 90.6 vs 90.5. Pop Lloyd leads on Dominance, Longevity. Randy Johnson leads on Honours.
How the GOAT Score is calculated →Lloyd wins: Dominance, Longevity
Johnson wins: Honours
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Lloyd leads in 4 of 5 weighted categories.
Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.
| Ghost race · career day | 30 | 100 | 365 | 1000 | 1825 | 3650 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 🇺🇸 Lloyd | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.421 |
| 🇺🇸 Johnson | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 34 | 101 |
Careers are aligned from debut; the first 5 season periods are measured against the same career window.
| Metric | LloydRetired | JohnsonRetired |
|---|---|---|
| Career batting average | 0.343 | — |
| Seasons played | 27 | — |
| Championship teams | 5 | — |
| Negro League batting titles | 2 | — |
| Hall of Fame inductions | 1 | — |
| Cy Young Awards | — | 5 |
| Strikeouts | — | 4,875 |
| World Series titles | — | 1 |
| World Series MVP | — | 1 |
| Perfect games | — | 1 |
| Career wins | — | 303 |
| Dominance w25% | 90 | 88 |
| Peak w20% | 94 | 94 |
| Longevity w20% | 92 | 90 |
| Honours w20% | 84 | 88 |
| Statistics w15% | 94 | 94 |
Pop Lloyd leads with a GOAT score of 90.6 against 90.5 for Randy Johnson — a gap of 0.1 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
Johnson scores higher on honours. Lloyd leads on dominance, longevity.
Both are scored on peak, dominance, honours, statistics, longevity within their sport. Lloyd: 90.6, Johnson: 90.5.
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