Who is better, Allen or Bird?
Sue Bird leads with a GOAT score of 91.2 against 91.1 for Ray Allen — a gap of 0.1 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
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Quick answer
GOAT Rank currently ranks Sue Bird above Ray Allen: 91.2 vs 91.1. Sue Bird leads on Dominance, Longevity, Honours. Ray Allen leads on Peak, Statistics.
How the GOAT Score is calculated →GOAT verdictgoatrank.world
BirdWinner
91.2Bird wins: Dominance, Longevity, Honours
Allen
91.1Allen wins: Peak, Statistics
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Time range
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Verdict
Weighted GOAT score
🇺🇸 Sue Bird
91.2
Bird leads in 3 of 5 weighted categories.
1. Sue Bird
2. Ray Allen
Category breakdown
Season form · Form index per season
Career timeline · Form index per season
Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.
GOAT pace tracker
Through age 22 · Form index per season
1. 🇺🇸 Sue Bird14 points per game
1 season by age 22 · 14 per season
Setting the pace at age 22
No verified birth date for Allen — shown in the pro-debut view instead.
Every career is cut at the season the athlete turned 22, so a rookie today is measured against exactly what a legend had banked by the same birthday.
| Metric | AllenRetired | BirdRetired |
|---|---|---|
| NBA championships | 2 | — |
| Career three-pointers | 2,973 | — |
| All-Star selections | 10 | 13 |
| Career points | 24,505 | — |
| Olympic gold medals | 1 | — |
| WNBA assists | — | 3,234 |
| WNBA titles | — | 4 |
| Olympic golds | — | 5 |
| Seasons played | — | 19 |
| Playoff games | — | 82 |
| Dominance w25% | 86 | 90 |
| Peak w20% | 94 | 88 |
| Longevity w20% | 92 | 96 |
| Honours w20% | 90 | 92 |
| Statistics w15% | 96 | 90 |
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GOAT Rank · the data
Bird91.2
Allen91.1
FAQ
Where does Allen beat Bird?
Allen scores higher on peak, statistics. Bird leads on dominance, honours, longevity.
How is the Allen vs Bird score calculated?
Both are scored on peak, dominance, honours, statistics, longevity within their sport. Allen: 91.1, Bird: 91.2.
What do you think?
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