Who is better, II or Tshiebwe?
Dereck Lively II leads with a GOAT score of 35.9 against 34.7 for Oscar Tshiebwe — a gap of 1.2 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
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II vs Tshiebwe
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IIWinner
35.9II wins: Dominance, Peak, Statistics
Tshiebwe
34.7Tshiebwe wins: Honours
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Verdict
Weighted GOAT score
🏳️ Dereck Lively II
35.9
II leads in 4 of 5 weighted categories.
1. Dereck Lively II
2. Oscar Tshiebwe
Category breakdown
Season form · Form index per season
Career timeline · Form index per season
Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.
GOAT pace tracker
Career stage · GOAT pace
Through season 3 · Form index per season1. 🏳️ Dereck Lively II3 seasons played · career day 1,095827 points per game
Setting the pace at this stage
2. 🏳️ Oscar Tshiebwe3 seasons played · career day 1,095343 points per game
-58.5% vs II at the same stage
| Ghost race · career day | 30 | 100 | 365 | 1000 | 1825 | 3650 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 🏳️ II | 0 | 0 | 484 | 797 | 827 | 827 |
| 🏳️ Tshiebwe | 0 | 0 | 26 | 132 | 343 | 343 |
Careers are aligned from debut; the first 3 season periods are measured against the same career window.
| Metric | IIActive · Dallas Mavericks | TshiebweActive · Houston Rockets |
|---|---|---|
| NBA games | 98 | 49 |
| NBA points | 827 | 343 |
| NBA award: All-Rookie 2nd Team | 1 | — |
| Number | 2 | 9 |
| NBA award: Pete Newell Big Man Award | — | 1 |
| NBA award: Oscar Robertson Trophy | — | 1 |
| Southeastern Conference Men's Basketball Player of the Year | — | 1 |
| Sporting News Men's College Basketball Player of the Year | — | 1 |
| Pete Newell Big Man Award | — | 1 |
| NABC Player of the Year | — | 1 |
| Oscar Robertson Trophy | — | 1 |
| Associated Press College Basketball Player of the Year | — | 1 |
| Dominance w25% | 34.5 | 34.1 |
| Peak w20% | 43.1 | 36.2 |
| Longevity w20% | 34.6 | 34.6 |
| Honours w20% | 26 | 32 |
| Statistics w15% | 43.4 | 37.6 |
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GOAT Rank · the data
II35.9
Tshiebwe34.7
FAQ
Where does Tshiebwe beat II?
Tshiebwe scores higher on honours. II leads on peak, dominance, statistics.
How is the II vs Tshiebwe score calculated?
Both are scored on peak, dominance, honours, statistics, longevity within their sport. II: 35.9, Tshiebwe: 34.7.
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