Who is better, Carnegie or Horner?
Herb Carnegie leads with a GOAT score of 81.3 against 81.2 for Red Horner — a gap of 0.1 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
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GOAT Rank currently ranks Herb Carnegie above Red Horner: 81.3 vs 81.2. Herb Carnegie leads on Dominance, Peak. Red Horner leads on Longevity.
How the GOAT Score is calculated →Carnegie wins: Dominance, Peak
Horner wins: Longevity
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Carnegie leads in 4 of 5 weighted categories.
Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.
| Ghost race · career day | 30 | 100 | 365 | 1000 | 1825 | 3650 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 🇨🇦 Carnegie | 0 | 0 | 55 | 117 | 264 | 667 |
| 🇨🇦 Horner | 0 | 0 | 50 | 107 | 242 | 653 |
Careers are aligned from debut; the first 5 season periods are measured against the same career window.
| Metric | CarnegieRetired | HornerRetired |
|---|---|---|
| League MVP awards | 3 | — |
| Provincial league titles | 2 | — |
| Professional seasons | 11 | — |
| Hall of Fame inductions | 1 | — |
| All-star selections | 4 | — |
| Stanley Cups | — | 1 |
| Penalty-minute titles | — | 8 |
| NHL games | — | 490 |
| NHL points | — | 152 |
| Seasons as captain | — | 2 |
| Dominance w25% | 78 | 76 |
| Peak w20% | 88 | 86 |
| Longevity w20% | 76 | 80 |
| Honours w20% | 82 | 82 |
| Statistics w15% | 84 | 84 |
Herb Carnegie leads with a GOAT score of 81.3 against 81.2 for Red Horner — a gap of 0.1 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
Horner scores higher on longevity. Carnegie leads on peak, dominance.
Both are scored on peak, dominance, honours, statistics, longevity within their sport. Carnegie: 81.3, Horner: 81.2.
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