Who is better, Saive or Ma Long?
Ma Long leads with a GOAT score of 97.3 against 85.0 for Jean-Michel Saive — a gap of 12.3 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
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GOAT Rank currently ranks Ma Long above Jean-Michel Saive: 97.3 vs 85.0. Ma Long leads on Dominance, Honours, Statistics. Jean-Michel Saive leads on Longevity.
How the GOAT Score is calculated →Ma Long wins: Dominance, Peak, Honours, Statistics
Saive wins: Longevity
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Ma Long leads in 4 of 5 weighted categories.
Cumulative output season by season — the shape of each career against the other.
Setting the pace at age 21
No verified birth date for Saive — shown in the pro-debut view instead.
Every career is cut at the season the athlete turned 21, so a rookie today is measured against exactly what a legend had banked by the same birthday.
| Metric | SaiveRetired | Ma LongActive |
|---|---|---|
| World Championship medals | 1 | — |
| European titles | 2 | — |
| Weeks at world number one | 20 | — |
| Olympic Games contested | 7 | — |
| Years at the top level | 29 | — |
| Olympic golds | — | 6 |
| World singles titles | — | 3 |
| World Cup titles | — | 3 |
| Olympic medals | — | 6 |
| Months at world No. 1 | — | 64 |
| Grand Slam completed | — | 1 |
| Dominance w25% | 78 | 99 |
| Peak w20% | 90 | 99 |
| Longevity w20% | 94 | 92 |
| Honours w20% | 82 | 99 |
| Statistics w15% | 82 | 97 |
Ma Long leads with a GOAT score of 97.3 against 85.0 for Jean-Michel Saive — a gap of 12.3 points on GOAT Rank's weighted model.
Saive scores higher on longevity. Ma Long leads on peak, dominance, honours, statistics.
Both are scored on peak, dominance, honours, statistics, longevity within their sport. Saive: 85.0, Ma Long: 97.3.
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